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		<title>California Bans Gay Marriage</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.uncensoredrants.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/noon8.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-165" title="No On Proposition 8" src="http://www.uncensoredrants.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/noon8-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" /></a>It sickens me that Californians can so easily accept additional rights for chickens and at the same time <a title="legislate discrimination" href="http://www.uncensoredrants.com/2008/10/31/proposition-8-for-or-against/">legislate discrimination</a> of people based on their sexual preferences.  We elected an African-American into the White House and told everyday citizens that they aren&#8217;t important enough to enjoy the emotional and legal benefits of marriage because they&#8217;re wired to prefer the same sex.  This isn&#8217;t a choice folks &#8211; being homosexual isn&#8217;t like being hungry, it&#8217;s like being black.  If it&#8217;s a fact for you, you can&#8217;t simply decide one day to change and you shouldn&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious from the polls and from the results that Californians don&#8217;t understand the ramifications to a large number of Californians.  They claim same sex marriage is a religious issue and I&#8217;m calling bullshit.  This is an issue of human rights and all you Catholics and Mormons out there that are supporting this belief that it&#8217;s okay to legislate discrimination need to start voting with your conscience, because your child-molesting, polygamyst lifestyles are next.  If you&#8217;re going to bring together <a title="church and state" href="http://www.uncensoredrants.com/2008/10/27/prop-8-is-dumb-churches-feel-backlash/">church and state</a> it&#8217;s only a matter of time before the state tries to make decisions about your lifestyles and right now I can&#8217;t wait to cast my vote on that issue.</p>
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<p>One of the Proposition 8 strategists, Jeff Flint, is quoted as saying:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I think the voters were thinking, well, if it makes them happy, why shouldn&#8217;t we let gay couples get married. And I think we made them realize that there are broader implications to society and particularly the children when you make that fundamental change that&#8217;s at the core of how society is organized, which is marriage.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>From my perspective &#8211; as a straight, married male with two young children, that sounds like a load of crap.  Society isn&#8217;t fundamentally organized by marriage &#8211; it&#8217;s organized by equality.  Even the churches preach that we should treat everyone equally &#8211; except the homosexuals, I guess, they should be treated differently.  I&#8217;m surprised they can still come to church&#8230; I guess that&#8217;s probably next.  I&#8217;m not a religious zealot, and I don&#8217;t believe that this is really what any God would approve of.  The Maker isn&#8217;t going to make people worthy of less than any other people.</p>
<p>At the same time this was happening in California, Florida and Arizona quietly passed similar legislation with similar bullshit reasoning.  And, I really hope, when all this plays out over the next few years that the American public will begin to realize that the things we hold most dear &#8211; the democracy, equality, and right to free speach and religion &#8211; can be taken away based on race, gender, sexual preference and religion.  Don&#8217;t think it can&#8217;t happen, because the more we take away from one group of people the more likely it is that everyone risks losing something.</p>
<p>Ranter</p>
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		<title>Legislated Discrimination or Poor Grammar?  Where do you stand on 8?</title>
		<link>http://www.uncensoredrants.com/2008/10/31/legislated-discrimination-or-poor-grammar-where-do-you-stand-on-8/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ranter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our neighbor and I were talking tonight and although I hate to admit it, because I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re too backwater, he&#8217;s a little bit white trash.  We don&#8217;t have a ton to talk about so I brought up Proposition 8.  Figured we&#8217;re both around 40, middle class, white men, we should be able to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our neighbor and I were talking tonight and although I hate to admit it, because I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re too backwater, he&#8217;s a little bit white trash.  We don&#8217;t have a ton to talk about so I brought up Proposition 8.  Figured we&#8217;re both around 40, middle class, white men, we should be able to at least talk about this without anyone getting too ignorant.  Boy, was I wrong.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m against Proposition 8 &#8211; let people marry who they want.  He&#8217;s for it &#8211; believes there&#8217;s something wrong with the law.  Figuring that didn&#8217;t make much sense I asked, &#8220;what do you think is wrong with the law?&#8221;  Now, I&#8217;m not much of a legal mind, but his response saying &#8220;it&#8217;s not written correctly&#8221; sounded odd to me. He&#8217;s married to a Fillipino, so I added in there, &#8220;how would you feel if they said you couldn&#8217;t stay married to your wife because she&#8217;s not the same race?&#8221;</p>
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<p>He paused for a minute and said, &#8220;I&#8217;m still voting for Prop 8, because it&#8217;s not written right.&#8221;  Now I was getting a little frustrated &#8211; this didn&#8217;t make sense to me.  We&#8217;re not even talking about writing a law here we&#8217;re talking about repealing a law that&#8217;s already been written.  So, I asked my question again, &#8220;seems like a stupid response considering how its written isn&#8217;t the point.  Are you voting to legislate discrimination or not?&#8221;</p>
<p>His response: &#8220;It&#8217;s not written right &#8211; marriage is between a man and a woman.&#8221;  After that and my comment about the next change being race related we parted ways and finished our Trick or Treating with the kids separately.  How do you feel?</p>
<p>Ranter</p>
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